I miss Riley 1.0, the level-headed woman that kept everybody else calm and sane during the early days of the ZA and fought fearlessly alongside the soldiers. I pitied Riley 2.0, as she sank into alcoholism, depression and self-pity (anyone else now think that change started after The War with the Mallers, right about the time that Saul and Lizzie formally "hooked up"?). I had hope when we saw Riley in the battle at Fort Irwin, where she showed that she was a fearless and competent soldier. But that didn't seem to last, and I'm a little scared of Riley 3.0 as we sit on the verge of her torturing Tardust. Please, KC, let it be a ruse of some sort!
Kinda freaked me out.
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Burt withholding that information just might have inadvertently saved Tardust's life. As it stands... it's gonna get ugly.
I used to joke that, "Riley is going to stick her kitchen knives into Scratch's vital organs in alphabetical order... chefs do that, right?" Now seems to be a very real possibility for Tardust.
Agreed. Not to mention that any "information" gleaned from torture is unreliable at best, and often unactionable in most cases. There are other ways to get the information out of him.
Creepy, but worth sharing:
One of them is Sodium Thiopental (AKA Sodium Pentothal). Its use as a "truth serum" is controversial, but possibly effective. Worth a try rather than dirtying ones hands and going down a deep, dark rabbit hole. As it turns out, Sodium Thiopental is one of the three drugs in the lethal injection cocktail and California is a capitol punishment state that uses lethal injection. Therefore, there would be some at Eastern Bay.
Let's go get a taco.
That's what I'm thinking. More creepy:
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Now, as for Skittles... I wonder if it is something as simple as bathing. The poor guy is not in his right mind and I wonder how well he is taking care of himself. He has food and water, but what about the state of his hygiene? I was half expecting Michael to remark on the inside of the water tower having a stench. As Saul pointed out waaaay back in the beginning, "Shit. They smell like shit."
"I've got tons of great ideas. Trouble is, most of 'em suck." George Carlin
"I've got the guns, the radio and the water for the Zombie Apocalypse, but you gotta have a yo-yo." Chris Boden
Hey, get a load of this. Guess who started writing again and has a spot in the fan fiction subforum?
Hello.
Sticking with morality in a world of zombocalypse makes the difference between you being a human and those things beings zombies.
So I sincerely hope that Burt's gonna intervene as soon as Riley is going to step over read lines. I have little trouble with her threatening Tardust in order to get information. But as soon as she gets into any kind of torture-practices, I would only "understand" her doing so, but also regret her acting that way.
Tardust is a weasel. And he needs punishment for what his attempt to rape Lizzy and maybe for sticking with drug-practices. But I don't remember him doing anything else wrong, which would make him deserve any torturing. Since he is together with R&B he actually gave no reason (yet) for them to act all Guantanamo on him.
@Osiris: I agree with you in so far that Riley seems to turn into Sith Riley right now; this is nothing compared to what Scratch has done ever since we know her, which means either she started being evil when she killed Charly for nothing or she took Kalani's daughter hostage in order to force Kalani into actions he wouldn't have done - depending on which action took place earlier.
Best wishes!
Liam
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- raises the acceptance of killing humans in huge numbers,
- reveals everything bad and and even worse about human behaviour and psychology,
- is fun.
I think the fun part of all this is seeing where the moral barometer of the forum falls. Just goes to show how easily people can turn from civilized to the wild west. If shit hits the fan and ya'll need me...ill be living alone in a cave at an undisclosed location.
while I agree tar should have to face some type of consequences for the rape attempt, that should come at the proper hands...namely, sauls. I would think he is actually the only one who knows the truth about that.
tardust has given them all the info hes going to know already. They know scratch is somewhere, tracking a group that left the colony. In truth, even a day away from her and the other two and he likely won't have a clue what her next move is. He said it himself, she's lost control, she's a total loose cannon(paraphrasing)...how could he, or anyone, predict her next move?
IF B&R were going to go down the torture for info route, that should have been the absolute first thing they did. They wake him up, as soon as he recognized Burt. Burt should have shot his finger off. Quick, (relatively) "painless" and would prove right up front, before ANY dialogue between the two parties....tar KNOWS they are not fucking around. With the way they are handling it now, really..going from semi-friendly captors(they haven't beat on him yet,that we know of)..all tar will do is shut down... Perhaps its naive, but I tend to believe him...to much random chance for it to be a setup. So I hope its a red herring, he could have been useful, even if a weasel.
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