Will Scratch join Michael

[scbubba]

I think that Durai was pretty quick guy and good with the planning and organizing. So the Mallers got there stuff together quickly.
Gun shops would be a prime target for raids by anyone with the wherewithal to be out looking. Having a safecracker on the team, i would put him on the gun shop runs.

I agree with Liam above in that I think we needed a start to a brewing conflict between Scratch and Burt early on. We also needed the Mallers to have access to the RPGs. 2 birds with one safe crack.

Scratch HAD to be out of ammo at the time of that first meeting by the tanker or she would have probably blazed away at somebody before Burt's fancy shooting. That would have put one or more main characters down early on. Not good.....

Anyway, I'm moving over to the side that says the Family probably has more to do with the story than just tying in Scratch's story. What that is, I don't know. But it could get interesting.

[Grognaurd]

Well, it's not like scavenging gunshops is what they do all the time. And only because Scratch was #2 back then, it seems that she had to stick with the "rations" of ammo given to her, just like anybody else.

But, yeah: It is not the first time that theories evolve around probable relations between Burt and (some of) the Mallers. So I won't challenge this. I just feel uncomfortable with something being so far back in the past that I have doubts that things so old will become relevant another time. the Locked and Loaded raid was important to establish the conflict between Burt and Scratch, when they first appeared. But else? We will see.

Best wishes!
Liam

Sorry, I am a bit of a pit bull on the where the hell was Burt and how could Latch get there before he did as well as where the hell was Saul on the first night when they let Lizzy in as other people are about Michael's arm. Toss in the whole CJ tells Saul and victor that she, Glenn and Pete are busy.

Time and time again we see characters unable to respond to what I think are important events.

To Wit on night one
Everybody go to sleep with your doors open in case of emergency...
Michael yells Help.
Angel runs down, says he forgot the keys, runs back to his room and then to Michael. Then Saul's shows up. Was he too afraid or did he have to put on his facial makeup? He heard Michael yell, because we hear him respond verbally well before he shows up physically.

[LiamKerrington]

Sorry, I am a bit of a pit bull on the where the hell was Burt and how could Latch get there before he did as well as where the hell was Saul on the first night when they let Lizzy in as other people are about Michael's arm. Toss in the whole CJ tells Saul and victor that she, Glenn and Pete are busy.

Time and time again we see characters unable to respond to what I think are important events.

To Wit on night one
Everybody go to sleep with your doors open in case of emergency...
Michael yells Help.
Angel runs down, says he forgot the keys, runs back to his room and then to Michael. Then Saul's shows up. Was he too afraid or did he have to put on his facial makeup? He heard Michael yell, because we hear him respond verbally well before he shows up physically.

You, you have a good point about it. Maybe this is "just" a depiction of human flaws and failure. *g*
As for Burt:

Burt hid in his bathroom in order to avoid them zombs killing him. Although he is a gun-maniac, he also knows how to assess situations from a military or strategic point of view: plenty of zombs against one guy with a gun. Hiding in the bathroom helped him safe ammo; and he also accidentally covered in the smell of washin-room stuff, as it seems.
But he lost track of time. No food and only some water left he also started to fall un- or half-conscious. Just remember how Saul and Angel found him: Burt did not knock the door frantically and ask for being helped out; he was down and close to a serious medical situation. It may be only a shot; but I guess that the Mallers/ Latch showed up at about that time, close before Angel and Saul showed up. They took their chances and went away with all the good stuff.

Best wishes!
Liam

[Witch_Doctor]

I wonder when did the opportunity arise for Scratch to start the jail break at Eastern Bay. I would have thought that the prisoners would have had a late start on the looting. I can see the prison guards abandoning the prison to protect loved ones when news gets out that TSHTF, but just when would that have happened and to what extent. So we have...

1. Outbreak begins
2. Out break spreads
3. LA realizes that TSHTF, everyone for themselves
4. Scratch jail breaks the Mallers
5. Mallers loot Burt's shop, across town
6. At some point Burt shows up AFTER all of this

[LiamKerrington]

1. At some point Burt shows up AFTER all of this

Ah, ok. I missed hav must this ... er ... must have missed this ...

[Grognaurd]

We can get complicated and have someone loot the store. Then, Burt shows up low on ammo and hides and the mallers come and loot the safe while Burt is passed out.

But it seems to me he would haul ass ad get to the store. There also does not really appear to be time for mob-rule looting. From Bell to the tower they find two survivors. No mobs. Inside the tower, Bill and Datu. A really dead dude with his throat torn out, a suicide, a zombie Cindy, one other zombie on the ninth floor(?).

Like Saul says, I do not get it, three (?) days and there is no one left in LA. I do not know if the mast majority of people just died where they were or reanimated and migrated underground or something.

We do hear lots and lots of thumps as they drive. Are those dead people? We hear the same thumps when Burt and Lizzy drive the tanker back to the tower and Lizzy says that running them over does not help the stink-factor. Gross, but I hope that the thumps we hear are bodies when Saul and Angel are driving. At least we then know that the people did not really go anywhere they just died in the streets.

[tlbro0]

If Scratch joins Michael, the reason for it must be huge. Also who does know that Pegs is the one that killed Latch? Only reason I could see a team up is so Scratch can get a clean shot.