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Johnnywalker
May 18th, 2012, 12:18 AM
When you look at the state of the world today and see how other military dictatorships run how many of them treat their civilians with any respect? They do the fighting the civilians are baggage they are not worthy of respect?

Now I'm not saying that this is the case only that it could be, for example if you take into account the lucifier affect documented by Philip Zimbardo (Link here ****With Caution Images are not work safe and are not for anyone under the age of 18 http://youtu.be/OsFEV35tWsg) a continuation of he previous work that took place at in stanford where even he himself became a enabler of this Documentary here http://youtu.be/FkmQZjZSjk4 again not work safe and also not for people under 18.

With this natural tendency for human beings not to assist and simply to respect authority check the milgram experiment if you disbelieve that people don't do as they are told (http://youtu.be/3f6LLV3fkXg again not work safe and also not for people under the age of 18)

I know that some of you don't believe that would happen, it would be unlikely as someone would stop this from happening but again if you look at the bystander experiment you will see that people over time will ignore something as long as others aren't doing anything to stop it (The Bystander experiment http://youtu.be/OSsPfbup0ac again not work safe and also not for people under the age of 18)

Now I have demonstrated how it is very possible that the situation in the Boulder camp would be incredibly difficult for the people that choose to go to it. The question is am I right also if I am would it be possible for Michael to find this out if so what would happen if he did? If this is not the case then to how much of a degree will the civilians have autonomy? anyone have any thoughts?

Cabbage Patch
May 18th, 2012, 09:54 AM
There is no denying that what you've suggested is possible. Even under the best circumstances I'm sure that life in Boulder is going to be harder and more regimented than life in pre-apocalypse America, and a lot less prosperous.

But I think it's a little early to tell how things are there. We have exactly one point of reference to life in Boulder, PVT Thomas. He's the one that briefs the survivors on Boulder, he came from there, there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't describe the place honestly, and he speaks favorably of the place. Once again, too early to draw conclusions, but compare it to Victor, and how he first attempted to stear Michael and company away from the Colony.

riskbreaker23
May 20th, 2012, 03:21 AM
Some over-priveledged nut type like Kelly in season 1 might call it a military dictatorship. I'm with Cabbage Patch, I'm sure it's difficult. But we have to compare and contrast the Colony to what I believe Boulder would become like.

First of all, Laws will be strict. That's not exactly what was wrong with the Colony, however. The Colony was, in my opinion, a group of people who have learned to become opportunistic. To the point that they are evil. The US military incharge of Boulder will more then likely be strict. However, they will follow a chain of command and make it completely apparent that everyone works hard and everyone pulls their weight. If you do that, you get what you put into it.

I imagine life in Boulder is more like life with Michael, Angel, and Saul. Yes, they made mistakes. But they were doing things and making tough choices for the good of everyone. The colony, I imagine, was bred out of everyone and the leadership being like Kelly from Season 1. Michael, Angel, and Saul had to put up with that because it was only three of them. However, the US Military will let everyone know they are incharge, and people will still have their freedoms they just need to work at it.

On another note... we live in a world now where we don't have to fight for our freedom as much as we used to. I feel like this situation in our Country is breeding people like Kelly (again, season 1 Kelly. Season 2+ Kelly is great) in droves. We become over priveleged, over indulgent, and don't want to fight for ourselves. We want things handed to us. Makes me sad to think if a situation like this did occur we'd most likely crack.




Then to despite all this, I have no idea what KC will do with that storyline. It very well could be just like the Colony. This is conjecture on my part, obviously.

GeneTwo
May 20th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Well I think it can go a lot of ways, but I have to hope that Boulder is a place where laws and liberties are still intact. Part of my reasoning comes from the actions of the soldiers that died saving people. Kimmet said that lots of troops were lost because they would not fire on infected people. This doesn't sound like an organization that holds itself separate from others.

Another clue is the way the soldiers act around civilians. If it were a military dictatorship that would mean civilians would be at the bottom and therefore be treated like crap. The soldiers would hold themselves above civilians, but I get none of that. Frankly, I'm surprised that the military is still a volunteer army. You would think with only about 150 thousand people alive in the US, military service would be mandatory.

I just have high hopes for Boulder. If anything, I see Boulder as a city devoted to the war effort, something akin to WWII era America.